I have been writing a series on the new Windows Defender Exploit Guard features on Attack Surface Reduction where I cover my research on it. I'm researching the controls to add the information in to my personal playbook. Surprisingly in conversations with some Red Teamers I know they dismissed the information as it is a Blue/Defense technology. These comments surprised me and I would like to share why it surprised me.
Let me start by saying that this is only an opinion. The steps and tradecraft for me would vary on level of skill of the defenders, scope, time and rule of engagements. This is blog post is only for me to share my though process and opinions on this area.
When it comes to attack and defense, red and blue, attack simulation. However, you want to call it in its essence it is an adversarial process, it is one team or person against another. Sometimes it can be a attacker against a defender or it can even be the attacker against a vendor research team that adds new features or modifies existing one. But it is one person trying to outwit another. So, if you are an attacker why are you not studying about defenses and mitigations?
What is the purpose of a red team or pentester? For me it is to show alternate ways of thinking and exercise the current controls in place to show areas of improvement to mitigate risks. To be able to do this knowledge on how systems works, how different lack of controls or misconfigured ones can have a negative impact for a given customer environment is of the upmost importance.
When it comes to the tradecraft one applies it will depend on the red team exercise you are conducting. If you are performing a simulation of a specific threat with blue your TTPs will be dictated by the threat intelligence you have on the adversary you are simulating to test the controls.
Knowledge of one’s tools, the opponent, his tools and how each implements them and uses them determines the actions. As Sun Tzu said:
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
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